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Dec 16, 2020

"At the end of the day, what this is about is preserving white male power. If the consequence of going back on Pornhub is reducing the incomes of people who were already marginalized, who were already lower to middle income, who were already blocked from other forms of work because they are trans, because they are undocumented, because of disability, then it isn’t an unintended consequence. It is just part of how this thing goes." Melissa Gira Grant

We talk to Melissa Gira Grant about Nicholas Kristof’s Op/Ed in the New York Times that led to Visa/Mastercard pulling out of Pornhub. We discuss trafficking narratives, anti-porn feminism, the business model of Pornhub, sex workers issues with payment processors, and more.

Melissa Gira Grant is a staff writer at The New Republic and the author of Playing the Whore: The Work of Sex Work.